Ventless Burners and Pans
This page will show you how to convert your ventless burners and now use Aquatic Glassel instead of those hideous logs! We are converting 3 ventless burners and the pictures that will be posted will show you what you can do to your fireplace. These pans can be made in any shape, material or design. These pans and baskets can also be used in vented fireplaces as well. We will be posting pictures in the next few days.
Ed
Oh look, here they are!
The first two pictures are of the ventless burner, interesting to say the least.
The pan that will contain all of the components are below
This page is to show you how to do this yourself or send us the burner and we will build it for you in any metal, material or shape.
The face of the pan will have a brushed stainless face to cover the controls of the ventless burner
The will be 4 legs to support the pan
We start now with installing the O2 sensors and valves
Now that the pan is turned over you can see where we will connect the burners
This is the O2 sensor, pilot light and electronic starter
Now the burners are installed
We always do a test burn after the burners are installed and check for those nasty leaks
Have your spouse do this in the event something goes wrong. Just kidding!
The upper pictures the door is up and on the lower picture the door is down to expose the controls.
Final test burn and a stainless front is added
This is the flame pattern you will see at night time below.
Say goodbye to those nasty logs forever!
This is the first burner we converted and we will be posting several other burners in the next week or so as we complete them.
Here are a few more Ventless Fireplace pictures after the
Toppers went on:
The 4 pictures below are of a failed attempt to poorly convert a ventless burner. You can't just break up any glass and pour it on your vent less burner, a few steps have to be taken as to insure you don't fill the room with carbon monoxide. This person came to us after they almost poisoned every one. What we do works and what was done here kills. Forest Gump said "Stupid is as Stupid does!
The fireplace below is a ventless with a steel pan and a stainless face added to cover the controls. The glass is
Azurlite with
ice ice ice. Ahhhhh the beauty of no logs! Really!
Can you honestly say logs look good?
Below, this is what a ventless burner looks like when you purchase one and we can do with it for you.
All of our sheet metal and welding is now done in house as we acquired a full sheet metal facility.
The ventless burner below is 1 of 3 that were sent to Georgia. The glass that we tested was
Multi Mix. We show the burner finished, with the burners exposed, burning and with glass, We will post the pictures of the finished fireplace when the customer send them to us to post. This is a propane ventless burner and these also are made in natural gas as well.
Notice the stainless box tray underneath the upper pan.
If you dream it, design it, think of it, we can build it as we are the innovators in the industry which seem to some how give licence for most to try to copy us and our products and designs. What is important that you know who we are!
The ventless burner below is made of steel and there were actually 4 of these made. We covered the front and sides with 5" skirts. There are being installed in Georgia and as soon as they send pictures we will post them These pictures were taken just after the testing. This is a propane ventless burner and these are available in natural gas as well.
The pictures below are of the same burner as above with
Azurlite installed. These 4 ventless burners are being installed in Georgia.
The skirts will hide the the valves and the remote control will be moved to the side of the fireplace. This was a ventless burner the customer sent to us for conversion and they asked for us to add a remote to all 4 ventless burners.
We use a piece of stainless steel in the front to contain the glass to cover the burners and keep the glass level.
The propane ventless burner below shows where the sensor has to be and how it works. This is a stainless steel pan with gold glass for the test burn.
The 9 pictures below are of a steel propane ventless burner. We used the original burner and installed an air mixer under the pan to insure a clean burn. As you will see the thermo-coupler, pilot light and ODS (oxygen depletion sensor are intact). These pans can be made in any shape or material.
What ever burner you purchase with or without remote control, we can convert it for you. Propane or natural gas, vented, direct vent or ventless as shown.
The propane burner below was made to inset flush to the floor with a remote control underneath the pan. The pan sat 5" below the surface so the glass would appear to be just above the surface. The outer ring was bolted down to keep the glass from falling underneath the burner in the event you ever had to service the burner or remote control. The tower you see is actually for the air mixer to draft fresh air to the propane before it burns.
As you can see we drilled it to look like a ribbon burner. This is what was ordered by the customer.
The 4 pictures below are of a self install almost gone bad. This is a ventless propane fireplace and if you look at the elbows in the first picture, they drilled holes to get air into the burner. It's a good idea but it could cause more issues than you can imagine. The air mixer/ venturi needs to be below the burn area where it can always receive fresh air and not in the burn area. Second the rocks it left uncovered will pop out into your room and burn what ever it comes in contact with. It's always a good idea to send us your project picture developments so we can monitor your mistakes and fix the issues before you move forward.
We don't know how it turned out as the customer never e mailed us back after we advised them.
The fireplace below is the fireplace of "Bill" and he wasn't sure where the burners went. So he put them on top and as you can see he should of put them under the glass.
Bill ordered a rectangular pan and it would of looked better if we would of built a trapezoid shape pan to contour the fireplace. Bill did drop his burners under the glass. This was a propane ventless conversion. Looks much better than those log thingies! Hopefully Bill will send us pictures of it finished and burning, maybe. The glass we used in the pan is
Starfire.
The fireplace below belongs to Ross Barnett in Florida. This was a ventless propane installation. Ross built a front wave design and we built a special wedge pan with the controls underneath. This is a remote control ventless burner. Great job Ross! The glass that was uses was:
and here are the before and after pictures.
Above is before the wave
What makes us different from anyone else is that we allow you to exercise your imagination. If you see it, dream it, draw it, imagine it we can build it for you. Ross saw what we did for other customers and he came up with this very cool design for us to build for his family room, thanks Ross!
The pan below is a stainless steel pan made to the same size as the fireplace. We installed a front curtain to hide the controls. This is a propane ventless burner pan. We will post pictures when the customer sends them to us after the installation.
We installed a 30" double burner in the middle. The maximum btu's on a ventless is 38,000 and any larger burner will make the flames much smaller.
Below the customer wanted sculpted front legs.
Below you see the front curtain in stainless steel.
and here you have it burning with out the glass
Our product can be used in a
ventless system provided that you do not change the sensors or settings as these are specific items by the manufacturer and cannot be changed. We in California cannot sell
ventless burners but we can modify them or show you how to modify these for our glass. Please see the
ventless burner page:
http://moderustic.com/index.php?action=website-view&WebSiteID=94&WebPageID=13000Thee modifications are 550.00 for a steel pan and 650.00 for a stainless pan plus the glass we would use.
We don’t sell the
ventless burners; we convert them or show you how to convert the burners.
http://moderustic.com/index.php?action=website-view&WebSiteID=94&WebPageID=13000We can build any size or style of pan or tray and install your burner or help you to do this yourself. Once the pan size has been determined we can then quote the glass. The glass has been ranging from $75.00 to $200.00 depending on the size of the pan and color of glass you would like. Be sure to check your local codes to insure you can install a
ventless burner. Plus shipping and crating and this will be determined by where you live and how large or small your burner will be. Be sure to check with your local building department and codes so see if
ventless is legal in your area! We are not the fireplace police, we are the hired help and we will build anything you want. Just because we build it, that does not make it legal. This is for you to find out about your local codes and what can or can’t be installed.
If you should have any other questions, please call me and we can discuss your options.
The next fireplace ventless conversion was from Eric at Neutral Interiors.
We built a pan to recess into the floor of the fireplace and to access the controls Eric cut a hole on the left side of the fireplace for easy access in the event it had to be reset or turned off.
We will explain as we move on:
The lower hole is the access hole.
Simple, clean and finished! He installed Starfire base glass.
The next pan is a stainless steel pan we manufactures for our customer in Hawaii. The system that was install was a
ventless burner to burn
propane with our glass. We will explain as we go forward.
On the front of the pan we we bend an open back hemmed stainless steel curtain to conceal the controls but it is still easy access.
This is the ODS (Oxygen Depletion Sensor) it speaks for its self.
Here we are burning propane with a
Starfire Base glass, please note what a clean burn! We do it right.
All of our pans are built for each application and fireplace.
